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Infusion Times

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  1. Colin
    Member

    Is there a good rule of thumb, or set of guidelines, for how to adjust infusion times for successive infusions of different teas? I know that it's a matter of preference to a large extent, and that it's also highly dependent on what type of tea you're brewing, and whether you're doing it in a Western method or gung fu method, etc...for example, I've heard that for some teas the second infusion should actually be shorter than the first, I suppose because the leaves are unfurled and have a greater surface area, though for most teas the infusion time should be gradually increased with each infusion. Are there any general tips for broad classes of tea, and what kinds are exceptions?

    Thanks!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  2. lucas
    Member

    I brew a lot of oolong teas, mostly gongfu style in Yixing pots or a gaiwan. This involves a small amount of water per brew (3oz) and a large tea/water ratio. For my tastes, I have found that most of them are good with a very quick first brew, maybe 10-20 seconds. I tend to avoid the "wash" that is often advised; I like to drink all the tea! So this quick first brew may be very smoky or more bitter (depending on the type of tea) than later brews. For the second, third, and forth brews I tend to go 30 seconds to 1 min, depending on the type of tea. With short, small brews I can often get six to ten cups out of each batch of leaves, and each brew has slightly different flavor characteristics.

    When brewing larger cups or pots (8oz) I find that it either takes way too much tea or that i am not able to brew as many times, since with a lower tea/water ratio the brew time must be longer.

    I suggest you experiment, and find a brewing method that produces good results for you. You don't need to be an expert to enjoy good tea!

    Posted 1 year ago #
  3. Colin
    Member

    Thanks, Lucas... It's interesting that you use the same infusion time for all successive infusions after the first. I've always gone up a little more with each infusion. With Tie Guan Yins and Bao Zhongs, for example (two of my favorites), I typically start with 30 secs to a minute for the first and second infusions, and then go up by 30 seconds or so for each successive one. I can usually get 5 pretty good infusions that way, using about 5 oz of water and probably 3-4 grams of leaves (this could be off, since I've never weighed the leaves -- it's generally about 2 level teaspoons). I don't know if that's a typical ratio for gong fu or not... maybe I should try a little higher. I do tend to like the tea a little on the strong side though -- my tastebuds are pretty insensitive to bitter.

    I'm especially interested in the differences in good brewing times for different kinds of teas, particularly oolongs. Anyone have any differential tips?

    Posted 1 year ago #
  4. tmaynard
    Member

    I've never tried the gong fu brewing style as lucas does, with lots of leaves in a small gaiwan or pot -- but I can easily see how keeping the steeping time constant would yield successive, good cups.

    I weigh my leaves at the "tea standard" of 2.25 grams per 6 fluid oz of water ... which works out to 3.75 grams for a regular 10 oz mug. I use a mug with a removable infuser this way.

    Alternatively, I put 5.25 grams in my French Press (cafetiere) and use 14 fl oz of water -- the volume of my thermal travel mug.

    Like you, Colin, I adjust the time (and occasionally the temperature) for successive infusions, and 30 additional seconds is my typical increment -- or 5F if I'm changing the water temperature instead (with constant steep time).

    Try it both ways and see which one you prefer.

    t.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  5. It seems to me that you guys have a pretty good grasp on the process. I just wanted to add a couple of points.
    First, the infusion time is determined primarily by the tea/water proportion. The extreme in China is the Chaozhou Kungfu process that uses the most tea in relationship to water, and the shortest infusion time. They like there tea strong and often. It doesn't bother them too much that the first couple of infusions are light, you hair will be standing on end soon enough. (Which I like.) The other extreme is the English method where a small about of tea is thrown in a big pot, with a lot of water, and infused a long time.

    Second, and perhaps the most imortant, is that what is a good cup for one may not be for another. It is clear that you guys understand this, but I feel that it is important to say again. This is so true with both tea and wine. Because everyone's chemistry is different, everyone's experience is going to be different. I think that a large part of the fun is playing around and experimenting. This is exactly what tea masters do. I heard from masters that I really respect, that we should let the tea teach us whatever we need to know about that tea. In other words, we ought to approach a tea as a student, and the questions we have should be directed to the tea, keeping in mind that the lessons are for us personally. I think this is the guideline, that if we follow, will always lead us in the right direction.
    Austin

    Posted 1 year ago #
  6. tmaynard
    Member

    You are exactly right, Austin. I usually brew the first batch (or maybe only the first infusion) according to the suggested/recommended time and temp ... and then go from there depending on my reaction.

    For new teas, I keep a journal of what I found I enjoyed the most so I can either resume my experimentation or just record the best "settings."

    When you said, "Let the tea teach us," you were dead on the mark. I only wish I were good enough to tell from the smell of the dry leaves where I should start (and thus skip the usual recommendations altogether).

    t.

    Posted 1 year ago #
  7. lucas
    Member

    It's true - when trying a new tea, I don't usually like to go with just a sampler of a few grams. I try to get 50 or 100 grams , and then I have a chance to really understand that tea through many brewings. If I brew it a few times and it comes out too bitter or too weak or strong I have a chance to brew it again and get it right. After several tries, I get a sense of how much time that particular tea wants to sit in the water, how many infusions it will take, how long to leave for each infusion. Of course, this means that I don't try very many teas - it takes time to drink through that much tea and it can get too expensive. But that way I really have time to learn from each tea.

    Also, I generally do increase steeping time for each successive infusion, and usually that time varies between 30sec-1min. It's hard to give exact times because I usually time it by watching the water evaporate off the outside of the pot or other less precise methods.

    Posted 1 year ago #

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